The quality of these pants are very good, but the sizing is horrible. My son has some old Carhartts sz 7 that might be a older model that fit him really well, in fact they ran a little on the long side and fit him till he wore multiple holes in them. But when I went to a size 8, they were way too wide and way to short, so much so that they were unwearable! I thought that might be a fluke so I got rid of those and got a different pair, same thing! Who are the kids they are fitting these for? I don't understand all the people that say they fit well. My son is neither exceptionally tall or exceptionally thin, he's a pretty average sized kid that fits average sized other pants, who works outside a lot and needs some work pants that fit. Yet I can't find such a thing anywhere.
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