i wish the waist was more secured. it is just a thin stretchy band but i understand these are made for children. i’m 4,11 and not a chid but a woman- i find these still a little bit long in my opinion but that is not an issue as ill be wearing hiking boots with these. i’m wearing another pair of pants under these photos(joggers). i do think these run big if these pants were going to be worn alone. these will not keep you warm but rather dry. they are thin- like i think you can poke holes in them with a #2 sharp pencil with easy.
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