I bought these specifically for rain days. I live in California so we don’t get much rain. The last 3 days have been super wet. The right boots has started getting wet in the toe box. Kinda bummed. The rest of the boot is great, no toe stitch, great sole wear, and nice leather. I really don’t have much to complain about other than the leak. I own a pair of 83832 wingshooters and they haven’t leaked at all and are way more beat up. I’m not sure if they construct them differently. I got my cousin, who works with me to get these same boots and his left boot leaks. I might go back to the 83832’s just to not have wet feet. I really like the toe’s of the non moc-toe though. I’ve just switched to safety toe last year but have been wearing Setters for 10+ years
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